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I've noticed when playing the beta, All mouse inputs seem to be a touch delayed. This starts from the end of the "loading" screen, so in the main menu and in the game. It seems a shame as I find it breaks the flow a bit, and I always feel I could be quicker if I knew where the mouse was going.

A) is it in by design

B) is it a bug (if it is, i'll repost this on getsatisifaction)

C) is it my Computer (dual core 2.2ghz, 4gb memory, intel hd graphics, win7)

I didn't notice this when I played on onlive, as my internet is quite quick, but it was mentioned the onlive demo could cause "the lag-induced floaty mouse of death"

Does anyone else have this problem?

A: It's not by design.

B: I really don't know what could be causing it.

Please post it to Get Satisfaction and Matt will take a look at it. Your specs seem decent enough. Usually the whole frame rate would drop if the computer wasn't very fast, so I don't know why this would happen. Anyone else have this problem?

Have reposted,
https://getsatisfaction.com/ftlgame/top ... ly_delayed

Thanks for prompt reply and beta key two weeks earlier then expected!

I'm having the same issue on a Lenovo Thinkpad X220 (Core i5 2.5ghz, 8GB RAM). I think it has to do with the Intel HD sandy bridge graphics, perhaps they are inadequate to run this game?

I actually have a DIY eGPU (Nvidia GTX 460) hooked up to my laptop and when I set the game to explicitly use that card, the cursor has no slowdown issues. When running off the Intel HD graphics, the cursor is quite slow/laggy. I basically can't do anything when alt-tabbed out browsing and etc.

I've attached my dxdiag.txt if that helps.

waynebo wrote:I'm having the same issue on a Lenovo Thinkpad X220 (Core i5 2.5ghz, 8GB RAM). I think it has to do with the Intel HD sandy bridge graphics, perhaps they are inadequate to run this game?

Interesting- I wouldn't have thought FTL uses a huge amount of graphics processing, to be honest, and since things like TF2 and Left 4 dead 2 work smoothly I'd thought it would have been fine.

I didn't get any attachments though- and to be honest I wouldn't know much what to do with it.....I tend to limit myself to changing in-game settings after one day I tried to update nvidia drivers on my old PC, and ended up uninstalling (and deleting) the driver for the Ethernet port....

My guess is that it's because it's not a proper graphics card. We've had issues with onboard graphics processors + OpenGL before. I can't say for sure because this is more Matt's department, but he'll be looking into it.

Whoops, the forum doesn't take .txt attachments and I didn't notice.

Here's the file on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/SBqeKaWn

The one I have does have 64mb dedicated, but that's not really enough for much these days, is it....

waynebo wrote:Here's the file on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/SBqeKaWn

Yes, you'rs is similar/slightly better than mine.

My dxdiag; http://pastebin.com/qm6WxuJd

if it helps....

Hey guys, sorry about the problem. The game is slightly more intensive than you'd think, partly because of the full HD images and probably partly because of me not being awesome enough. That said, I've had people run the game successfully on similar machines to the one's you're describing so the solution is hopefully out there

Please make sure your drivers are fully up to date, especially for integrated cards. We've had issues where the drivers supplied by Lenovo for the integrated cards were not the correct drivers and were causing extreme slowdown issues.

The floaty mouse is most likely caused by a slightly too slow framerate, but that should be fixable. If you're right on the edge of playability (so not running at 5 FPS), then turning of vertical sync might solve your problem. The game is automatically attempting to force it off, but some systems like to force it on. You should have some sort of graphics control panel, I'm not sure how it works for the Intel HD cards, that will allow you to switch Vertical Sync to be "Application Settings" or even just "Off." Give that a shot.

1) tried changing vsync to "application settings" on the control panel thing. No difference.

For interest I ran fraps in the background, and the fps never dropped below 30. OK, it had a range between 35 and 50, but i'd have thought that 30 fps was easily enough.

2) attempted to update drivers- it turns out the driver on this computer is one Toshiba did, and it isn't standard, so I could be breaking my computer if I tried to update. I may contact Toshiba on this if no other solution can be found.